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 Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since.. 2010-01-06 09:59:16 
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Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since 2003.

OK, thats enough now. No more fighting rhetoric.Those who wish to fight can follow what guidance have come to them and leave us to the guidance we are on, Those who wish to struggle to establish the Muslim Village should continue to post here.
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 Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next. CIA trying to infiltrate this site... 2010-01-06 07:56:46 
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As-Salamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh:

 Does the Administration on this site have a way to check the IP addresses of the people on this forum? If so, then please check and see where the IP addresses are coming from.

 The CIA, Mossad etc... are waitng and trying and are hoping to relish painting the media with propaganda like "Sheikh Imran Hosein a radical cleric" etc...

 WE MUST KNOW WHO IS INCITING WHAT. 

 To know about the "Mujahidin" watch this:
 Adam Pearlman, zionist jew, became the spokesman for Al-CIAda.
 Joseph Cohen, now Yusuf Al-Khattab, becomes the "radical muslim"
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0

 Was-Salamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.
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Amin. Jazakallah Brother Abd for praying to ALLAH(SWT) to make us steadfast and unshakable against the big tides of tyranny and oppression. What value a Muslim has got, if he doesn't act but devours tons of knowledge? What valor this mankind has achieved sending probes to distant universe, while his own species are being oppressed and killed and indoctrinated with evil dark knowledge every second the pass?!!! No, A muslim is only called Muslim for his activism. For his right to right the wrong, to save those who are fallen by the help of ALLAH(SWT). Are we not becoming the same in thinking like those corrupted jews who wait for the messiah (false) to come to rule the world?? All signs are unveiled for those who understand, but it's our love of our lives, fear of their might and cowardice that hold us back.
By the glorious name of our lord ALLH(swt), who has created us and poured blessings on us to become one of his chosen slaves, our blood will gush forth against those, who commits Fassad and create a world of uncreation. That's why mankind is created.
May ALLAH(swt) show us the way and give strength to our every endeavors.
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Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since 2003.

Al Hamdu Lillaah, All praise is for Him. He who created us from a drop of despicable fluid, provided for us, protected us and taught us the what we know.
Re:Addiyat; One of the diseases of this Ummat is the love of Dunya. That's why so many make excuses and shun fighting for Allaah(s.w.t.). Overcoming this test is difficult. Regular fasting helps alot.
May you continue to speak the truth, fearing Allaah(s.w.t.) alone. May Allaah remove love of Dunya from our hearts, for this world is nothing but play& amusement, and may He guide you, Addiyat, to fighting for His sake. Please make Dua for the same thing for me.

I can only warn others...I won't waste time refuting every excuse they make... They were told and warned, whether they fear Allaah the All-Knowing  ALONE and turn to supporting His path or fear persecution from men, it's their decision.

Assalaamu Alaykum to all those who are rightly guided.

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Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since 2003.

What I believe, that period of singing lullaby is gone or fading before our very eyes rapidly. Muslims as a whole are in conundrum. Problem is, they know 'this is the time' but off and on dwindle in confusion. That's the most tragical part. ALLAH(swt) has created all human equal but in ranks. Some will fight, some will spend wealth, some will dissect truth from the lies with knowledge, all for the sake of ALLAH(swt).
This is the time to draw sword, this the time to ignite the knowledge, this is the time to spend the wealth, this is the time to become ruthless and merciless against lies like our Rightly guided Kalifh Hadrat Umar Farouque (RA). Then if ALLAH wishes victory is very near, no matter how long or painful it might be. Muslims have to be patient and righteous as ALLAH(SWT) addressed in Sura Asr' as those who have achieved the ultimate success in this world and hereafter.
Fear not, if any one of us dies in the battle, becomes 'Shadid' or If wins He becomes nightmare for the Zionist Jews and misled Christian Alliance or simply NWO/ Illuminati/ Free masons/ Gog and Magog.
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Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since 2003.

Brother Abd, As-Salamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh:

 Here is something to get you to think.

 " The National Association of Muslim American Women (NAMAW) has charged the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) with entrapping four New York City Muslims arrested for planning to bomb a synagogue.

The cell was nabbed last week after a year-long police dragnet that involved an informant, who the Times of London reported probably is Shahed Hussain, a former New York state motel owner. He began collaborating with the FBI in 2002 to avoid deportation to Pakistan after being arrested on charges of fraud.

NAMAW appealed to the Justice Department to investigate the case, accusing the FBI of plotting to entrap the cell as part of a campaign against Muslims. It said that the FBI is “creating the illusion that all Muslims are either terrorists or potential terrorists, thereby substantiating the use of racial and religious profiling on Muslims and Arabs.

“The FBI, posing as Al Qaeda-backed militants to brainwash and coax 'vulnerable' men into the walking trap of their own foiled terrorist plot, causes grave concern to the representatives of Muslims in American society," the organization said in a statement.

Police and federal investigators, after tracking the cell, sold them fake bombs and a phony Stinger missile that the four men planned to use to attack two Jewish buildings, including a synagogue, and a National Guard air base.

The cell wanted to create “a fireball that would make the country gasp, “according to a police officer.

The Muslim women’s group, which previously has asked for a probe of Jewish lobby groups for allegedly spreading hate messages, claimed that one of those arrested has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. They also charged that the FBI informant “persuaded these men into believing that their religion obligated them to carry out acts of violence in the United States in retaliation for U.S. war crimes being carried out in the Muslim world.'   "
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131594

 " A Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.

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Haskell said he and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.
Kurt and Lori Haskell are attorneys with Haskell Law Firm in Taylor. Their expertise includes bankruptcy, family law and estate planning.
While Mutallab was poorly dressed, his friend was dressed in an expensive suit, Haskell said. He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, 'He's from Sudan and we do this all the time.'”
Mutallab is Nigerian. Haskell believes the man may have been trying to garner sympathy for Mutallab's lack of documents by portraying him as a Sudanese refugee."

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html

 Please tell me about these "brave mujahideen" PATSIES.

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 Was-Salamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

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 Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since.. 2010-01-03 17:21:05 
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I warn you of a Day when your ability to put forth excuses will be of no avail against your Judgement.
I hope, Insha Allaah, many others will support those specially chosen ones fighting for the sake of Allaah against the great oppressors of today and share in the great rewards which they are recieving...
... make Dua so that Allaah,Ar Rahman, may accept my efforts to support His mujahideen with my words and that (Insha Allaah) He blesses me by accepting me as one of them...Abdullaah.
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Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since 2003.

Bismillah
In the Name of Allaah...
Instead of running to America ,( saying Im going for dawah), or hiding in a room, saying I want to increase ammal and imaan (while muslim brothers and sisters are being slaughtered) I should act. Of course. If my wife and sister are being raped, the last thing i want to hear from a supposingly muslim brother is that he has to increase his Ammal and imaan first...He would then reveal his hypocrisy in the worst time for me..
Allah, most high, says in Surah As-Saff - "Oh you who believe, why is it that you say what you do not do? Most abhorent is it in the sight of Allah that you say what you do not do"

Thank you for your poignant words, may Allah protect us all from nifaaq and riyaa, especially those who meet the angel of death in this state.

The defining attribute of a Muslim in an Islamic community is that he does not act on his own (and certainly not in accordance with his own will, when a Sunnah has been established), but in co-ordination with the limits, aims and strategy of the Jama'ah. Action in Islam, as far as I know, is tempered by defining criteria, for example it is fard to make Salaah, but one cannot make thur in the time of Fajr... Similarly, as a muslim, it is not permitted for one to take up arms except under certain very well defined circumstances.
Now, defending ones wealth, honour (family), property and sanity are grounds for individual action. Similarly defending one's land from invasion would be a reason for such action, but in an organised manner as much as is possible. The third reason would be the offensive armed struggle, but here the conditions are even more stringent. The video on Islam and the Political Order is just about ready and will be posted soon, insha Allah.

With action, Allaah(Ar Rahman) increases Imaan and ammal. Muslims are under attack, and Imam Imran Hosein admitted to an armed resistance in Pakistan.
In his article, the hypocrites would line up for US visa (of course with an excuse of increasing their Imaan first before fighting or giving dawah) and the true muslims  would take up what little arms they have and fight for the sake of Allaah fearing Him alone. These muslims that stay may not be the scholars but Allaah(swt) would give them Imaan and Ammal above the rest!  I know this for a FACT! once you act according to what the Ummah needs then your Imaan increases...
Whenone acts upon what one knows, Allahincreases one in Knowledge, emaan and certainty. Lets all remember that for the thirteen long years in Makkah, Muslims were being raped,tortured and murdered, sometimes in the presence of Rasulullah (s), yet no action was permitted nor authorised. Ponder over this, my dear brothers to see the wisdom behind Allahs plan. The immediate, individual duty according to the work Imran N Hosein, is to perfect ones Emaan (and you cannot do this sitting in a room), work at attaining Nur, while moving to establish communities that will produce educated, enlightened and upright Muslims "with backbones of steel".

I am trying to use this knowledge ,that Allaah(swt) gave us the responsibility of knowing ,to prepare. That's the main reason we were given this knowledge(Al Hamdu Lillaah), not just to discuss and be amazed as it unfolds infront of us...
So in conclusion, those Muslim brothers in Pakistan, learn how to use a weapon, get and make links for weapons, learn bomb making skills if u can, prepare for this future for the sake of Allaah swt, for we want the great honour of benefitting this Ummah in the best way we can.
Others, recruit from your country to send funds and men to the battlefield of this Jihad, if you cant migrate, do what you can according to your means, Allaah alone knows your heart.
If ones uses knowledge of wudu to fast it would not benefit one in any manner. Pakistan has a standing army of roughly one Million soldiers who are well equipped and able. Our mission, at this point in time, is to produce those who will be endowed with Nur and wisdom and who would have the courage to crawl over ice when the time comes. Similarly if anyone feels that they want to arm themselves and make bombs then this forum and website is not the place for them, there are plenty of other forums and websites pursuing that agenda, complete with CIA operatives ready to trap naive muslims and send them to Guantanemo - where they would have enough time to work on their emaan and amal....
Just remember, when the Mehdi is leading the muslims with his army you can't just go and buy a one way ticket to Khorasan from US or UK...Migrate to the reigon, prepare for what was revealed to us...sell the life of this world, you would definately have to in order to come to this area of Pakistan and Afghanistan. But the Hereafter is much more lasting and better, of course.
Surah As Saff:
10. O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a trade/transaction that will save you from a painful torment?
11.
That you (first) believe in Allah and (follow) His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you (then) strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know!
12.
(If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of  Eternity, that is indeed the great success.
13. And also (He will give you) another (blessing) which you love, help from Allah (against your enemies) and a near victory. And give glad tidings (O Muhammad ) to the mu'minuun!
Please share your ideas on " the ways of preparing for this future armed resistance",
It was Imaam Ghazali who defined bravery as "anger brought under the control of knowledge". I will not entertain encitement nor entrapment on these forums. Our way and our path forward has been clearly defined by Sh. Imran Hosein, i.e that of the Muslim Village, be it in Pakistan, Afghanistaan, Yemen, Malaysia etc. We welcome dialogue here with regard to these efforts.

May Allaah(swt) guide us, give us strength, and bless the best of His creation, Muhammad(s.a.w.) ... Ameen.
Ameen!
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 Subject :Re:Definitely Pakistan is up next.... matter of fact it has been since.. 2010-01-02 20:16:50 
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In the Name of Allaah...
Instead of running to America ,( saying Im going for dawah), or hiding in a room, saying I want to increase ammal and imaan (while muslim brothers and sisters are being slaughtered) I should act. Of course. If my wife and sister are being raped, the last thing i want to hear from a supposingly muslim brother is that he has to increase his Ammal and imaan first...He would then reveal his hypocrisy in the worst time for me..

With action, Allaah(Ar Rahman) increases Imaan and ammal. Muslims are under attack, and Imam Imran Hosein admitted to an armed resistance in Pakistan.
In his article, the hypocrites would line up for US visa (of course with an excuse of increasing their Imaan first before fighting or giving dawah) and the true muslims  would take up what little arms they have and fight for the sake of Allaah fearing Him alone. These muslims that stay may not be the scholars but Allaah(swt) would give them Imaan and Ammal above the rest!  I know this for a FACT! once you act according to what the Ummah needs then your Imaan increases...

I am trying to use this knowledge ,that Allaah(swt) gave us the responsibility of knowing ,to prepare. That's the main reason we were given this knowledge(Al Hamdu Lillaah), not just to discuss and be amazed as it unfolds infront of us...

So in conclusion, those Muslim brothers in Pakistan, learn how to use a weapon, get and make links for weapons, learn bomb making skills if u can, prepare for this future for the sake of Allaah swt, for we want the great honour of benefitting this Ummah in the best way we can.
Others, recruit from your country to send funds and men to the battlefield of this Jihad, if you cant migrate, do what you can according to your means, Allaah alone knows your heart.

Just remember, when the Mehdi is leading the muslims with his army you can't just go and buy a one way ticket to Khorasan from US or UK...Migrate to the reigon, prepare for what was revealed to us...sell the life of this world, you would definately have to in order to come to this area of Pakistan and Afghanistan. But the Hereafter is much more lasting and better, of course.

Please share your ideas on " the ways of preparing for this future armed resistance",

May Allaah(swt) guide us, give us strength, and bless the best of His creation, Muhammad(s.a.w.) ... Ameen.
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US special forces conducted secret raids inside Pakistan

Paul Woodward, Online Correspondent

A former Nato officer says multiple incursions into Pakistan's tribal areas by US special forces occurred between 2003 and 2008 but the Pakistanis 'were kept entirely in the dark about it'.

Meanwhile the US is applying increasing pressure on Pakistan's military to conduct operations against the Taliban in Balochistan, but a senior intelligence official with the Inter Services Intelligence says that there have already been 60 joint CIA-ISI operations in the south western province this year. The official told The Guardian that Pakistan's overstretched military 'can't fight everywhere at once'.

"American special forces have conducted multiple clandestine raids into Pakistan's tribal areas as part of a secret war in the border region where Washington is pressing to expand its drone assassination programme.

"A former Nato officer said the incursions, only one of which has been previously reported, occurred between 2003 and 2008, involved helicopter-borne elite soldiers stealing across the border at night, and were never declared to the Pakistani government.

" 'The Pakistanis were kept entirely in the dark about it. It was one of those things we wouldn't confirm officially with them,' said the source, who had detailed knowledge of the operations.

"Such operations are a matter of sensitivity in Pakistan. While public opinion has grudgingly tolerated CIA-led drone strikes in the tribal areas, any hint of American 'boots on the ground' is greeted with virulent condemnation."

In September 2008 it was reported that then-president George Bush had issued a secret order in July of that year, authorising US special forces to conduct operations inside Pakistan.

US commandos, backed by helicopter gunships, launched a ground raid in early September last year which the US claimed killed about two dozen insurgents. The raid was condemned by Pakistani officials who said most of the dead were civilians.

Declan Walsh reported on the growing strategic importance of Balochistan, a province that covers two-fifths the area of Pakistan and that now serves as a rear base for the Afghan Taliban.

"The new US approach to Balochistan is driven by battlefield realities. By next summer 30,000 western soldiers - a third British, the rest mostly American - will be based across the border in Helmand. Seth Jones, a civilian adviser to the US special forces commander in Afghanistan, said this month that the US must 'target Taliban leaders in Balochistan' through an expanded drone strike campaign. Pakistani officials trenchantly oppose the idea.

" 'We can't fight everyone, everywhere. We need to be pragmatic. And we will not be dictated to,' said a senior official with Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), speaking on condition of anonymity. The official admitted that insurgents 'do come and go' in Balochistan, but insisted the ISI was already cooperating with the CIA in the province, citing 60 joint raids over the past year.

"Drone strikes in densely populated Quetta would be 'disastrous', he said, both in terms of civilian casualties and anti-American hostility. 'I think this is just pressure tactics, the Americans aren't stupid enough to [extend drone strikes]. But if their objective is to destabilise Pakistan, that would be a good way to do it.'

"Analysts say Pakistan is playing a complicated strategic game - fighting the 'bad' Taliban in Waziristan, but secretly allying with the 'good' militants attacking Afghanistan. 'I can imagine the Pakistanis symbolically allowing the Americans to take out a few guys from the Quetta shura,' said Rifaat Hussain, a defence studies professor at Islamabad's Quaid-I-Azam University. 'But I can't see them entirely turning the tables. Pakistan's main concern is not to burn its boats with all shades of the Taliban.'"

In a report for McClatchy Newspapers, Jonathan Landay noted: "Less than a month after he unveiled it, President Barack Obama's Afghanistan strategy is in trouble, overtaken by new political turmoil in Pakistan that threatens to distract its bickering leaders from the fight against al Qa'eda and its Afghan and Pakistani allies.

"Washington and Islamabad were already embroiled in a nasty quarrel over US demands that Pakistan 'do more' to eliminate Afghan guerrilla and al Qa'eda sanctuaries on its side of the remote border with Afghanistan.

""Resolving the dispute now may have to await the outcome of what could be a long, messy battle for survival by the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party-led coalition against the judiciary, the opposition and the powerful military.

" 'Everyone's attention in Pakistan will be on the new political order,' said Nasim Ashraf, a scholar with the Middle East Institute who served in Pakistan's former military-run regime.

"Even without the crisis, Pakistani generals were unmoved by American denials that Obama's engagement in Afghanistan is limited, and they still see the Afghan militants as their best tools to stop rival India from enlisting Afghanistan in a plot to 'encircle' Pakistan after a US withdrawal, many experts believe."

Meanwhile, in Pakistan's Dawn newspaper, Huma Yusuf wrote: "The stage is being set for a military operation in North Waziristan, whether the Pakistani establishment likes it or not. American military heavyweights have urged the government and army to expand operations into the tribal agency, and refusals to do so have not been taken lightly.

"More than US demands to eliminate the Quetta shura, and certainly more than the South Waziristan operation, the possibility of an operation in North Waziristan raises fundamental questions about the course of the US-Pakistan partnership in the war against terror. Are we fighting our war, or their war? In either case, what does victory look like? And can there be a long-term solution to militancy in this region?

"For the moment, President Asif Zardari has refused to expand military operations into North Waziristan. But the US is not taking no for an answer. David Sedney, US deputy assistant secretary of defence for Pakistan and Afghanistan, has admitted that tensions between Washington and Islamabad are heightening over plans for the agency. He added that as soon as the US has 'exact targeting information', it will be passed on to Pakistan - and Islamabad's cooperation is expected."

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