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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?.. 2010-05-07 11:51:44 
kashif jamal
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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?



where you live?in swat?if not than you know that taliban threw acids on faces of girls from western and pakistani munafiq media.if you trust that media than sorry to say you are among them,simple.

pakistani army even made a fake video of taliban beating a female.on this video paki army launched operation and killed thousands of pakhtoons and fell down dozens of moques.but as you favourite kaafir media did not tell you this so you do not believe it

 

why you people trust dajali media more than a muslims words?and a muslim who is fighting practical jihad too.you people are strange.

 

 afghan and pakistanmi taliban are one.whoever thinks that they are separate is trying to create doubts among muslim and for this he will be punished by allah i have no doubt
you people trust pak zionist pak armys propoganda aginst taliban but forget that this army brutally killed thousand unarmed islamic school girls in islambad to please americans.

i myself am a patriot pakistani but islam to me is more dear than my country.its very painful to expose pak armys real face but its true that its against islam in general.it was in zia era a mujahid army but now its merceneary army that kills for zionists

you people cant imagine how brutally pak army has killed women and children for tribal area in last one year on american orders...hundreds and thousands of children were intentionally killed in tribal area as part of their ethnic cleansing

we muslims do not want breaking of pakistan ,we just want that a pious ruler comes here who hangs all the generals working for america 

may be you people are against talibans aqeeda so you are tarnishing their image?as i know brelvis and shias are deadly enemies of taliban because of talibans salafi aqeeda.

 and  your words that there is no compulsion in religion are misdirected

taliban in pakistan are not fighting to make kaafir army or anyone muslim,they are fighting a defensive war against pak army who along with america is killing them.last week pak airforce and american drone planes flying from pak air bases killed hundreds of pakhtoon religious students in orakzai agency.so what should taliban do start sitting in airconditioned rooms like you and start typing that there is no compulsion in religion or they should defend the lives and honours of muslims of tribal region from american and pak armys offensive?

but as your dajali media did not report these army brutalities  so you wont believe them!

 

yaa hasrat on so called muslimeen of today

when allahs lashkar or army is in front of them they instead of joining them are creating doubts about them!

anyway loss is yours

even american and german mujahideen in droves are joining taliban on both sides of border,pakistan and afghanistan.you people keep creating doubts about them and let these american and german mujahideen take seats in heaven



[naveed 2010-05-07 02:08:00]:



I agree with the admin about his views on this issue.  Burning schools and throwing acid in women's faces is not my idea of a revolution.  The pathans of swat joined the military to oust the extremists.  The Taliban in Afghanistan and in Pakistan are two different entities.  One is fighting to liberate themselves and the other is trying to enslave the masses.  "There is no compulsion in religion",  I think people forget that.  I think Turkey is the only country that is having a proper revolution at the moment.  They are educating the people rather than pointing weapons at them.  I would also point you to a film, "The Revolution will not be televised".  Based on Hugo Chavez's movement in Venezuela.  His success was due largely to educating the people and teaching them their rights.  I have to yet meet a religious movement that gives the people their due rights.  They shift blame whenever possible and point fingers without offering any solutions.  And then they call everyone who doesnt agree with them zionists. 

Sheikh Imran offers solutions on this forum which many people overlook.
His ideology is very different from the fanatics that post on this forum. 



[umerislam 2010-05-07 01:55:22]:

Few suggestions have been given by my friends which I show you

1.Support the Taliban until they liberate afghanistan and once they liberate afghanistan then they will surely come to Pakistan.we should prepare ourselves to welcome them

2.ullamas of all maslak/sects should be united,choose a Ameer then get the students of madarasas,colleges and universities and people with them and then block the parliment houses and president house and so on until the Govt demolishes

3.force the Govt to do referendum on implimenting shariah in Pakistan.

4.Join Jammat e Islami and vote for it so that it wins the election and then impliment shariah.

5.join Tanzeem e Islami . I think Point 2 is similar to Tanzeem e Islami

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 Subject :Re:A late warning (The Dajjal rose up).. 2010-05-07 11:27:31 
safehhh
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Topic : A late warning (The Dajjal rose up)

Alslam Alykom

The Dajjal truth Continue...

To identify a power you need to see their symbol, example Koryish power was measured with the Idols, and the more idols, the more trips come to Mecca in the pilgrimage time, and the more trips the more product exchange and the more product exchange the more gold they will get from the Empire, and on and on...It end up in a symbol gold hard currency, and that’s my friends is what we have here the Hard currency the Dollar and the competitors. With all the complications of the economy the world lives within the twenty first centuries and the type of product exchange and the supremacy of the hard currency the American dollar in the last 50 years. Prophet Mohamad S.A.S. wouldn’t revealed it to the people in his time the way we see it now, they wouldn’t understand or even believe prophet Mohamad S.A.S. from how the new Empire and the name of it and its system will control the Arabian country and force who ever reject their life style to follow its system and not to follow Islam from (a politic, economic and social view) and they lift us only to follow the 5 pillars. This is the biggest fitnah.

In the 21st century, we see the Western Philosophy of crooked freedom and justice invented and defended by the US and Allies ( notice the media always say the US and its Allies), the crooked freedom of married gays, the crooked freedom of speech in insulting religions, the crooked freedom of nakedness and sexual pornography, the crooked freedom of using Women in every single advertisement from food to rockets. The crooked freedom of abortion and the crooked freedom to cheat on your spouse and putting a low for prostitution. (what a contradiction). The crooked freedom to have lovers from both genders but prohibiting marrying more than one woman it is a crooked freedom to destroy every social ethical principle Allah S.W instructed this Umah to do and believe in. It is the fitnah to accept all of that and you still can worship Allah and practice your religion.

What freedom of practicing religion or going to the mosque or having an Islamic school for your kids, when and in the same time you have all your society getting infested by this new crooked freedom and system of life. It is like practice Islam as you like but accept the system of life I force upon you, accept the gays and accept naked woman and girls walking your TV and your beaches. And by the way I am talking about Muslim countries not the west, the west are free to live there life as they want. (you have your own religion and I have mine) but the problem is not in that, the problem is in forcing there system upon the Muslim Umah by media or laws or even by force.  *Brothers and sisters I know you read and heard that a lot, but to make it clear this is the Fitnah of the Dajjal System.

it is to follow (live) his system, which means (worship him). Than following (living) the true system which means (Worshipping Allah S.W) *It doesn’t matter if you see the creator of a system as long as you follow and obey. Like the creator of a corporate and its rules, employers don’t have to see him to follow, work, and live by the company rules. Only in some circumstances he have to show his face to his employees. let us remember we do not need to see Allah S.W. to worship him or to obey him or to follow his system.

This is simply what a religion is; a social life system owned and put by the creator Allah S.W. through his final prophet Mohamad S.A.A for the universe to follow (Jinn and Humans) called Islam. So when you infiltrate a new system in the worlds systems especially Islam with the name CROOKED FREEDOM. We get an unrecognized Mamsoh (unrecognized) system. And that is what we have now, A Mamsoh (unrecognized) Islam. We think it is Islam but as a matter of Fact it is not. And that is the Fitnah.

Conclusion: for the first chapter. First part Prophet Mohamad S.A.S mentioned al Dajjal in his Ahadith and described the Fitnah of the Dajjal or Almasih al Dajjal as a system which we are living in now. And we need to see it from this point of view The Dajjal Fitnah as a system. So let us wake up and see that first big judgment day sign had arose. And we are living it. Let us refuse all the infiltration and the changes forced upon us. From being maniac consumers, money hunger, and sex hunger. Let us go back to the instructions of Allah S.W in the Quran. Let us go back to the only true constitution Allah gave to us the Quran. and as we said early;

We do not need to see Allah S.W. to worship him or to obey him or to follow his system. So humanity do not need to see a Dajjal physicaly to claim that humanity is not worshipping the Dajjal or the fitnah is not here yet. Humanity has worshipped the Dajjal and they took him as A God by following his system if it was the people or the government. and know this for sure You don’t need to see a one eye man to worship. It is enough you follow the system.

(To be continued ella an yasha Allah)

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 Subject :Re:A late warning (The Dajjal rose up).. 2010-05-07 11:13:46 
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Alslam Aykom brother  stone22island

Bism Allah masha Allah, The true Mo'men will see with his heart and mind, I have read your post and there is no difference between what we saw. we are drinking from the same cup.

This thread will shed more on a lot of facts related to what you have found and more answers to your questions. so with all respect can we wait to answer your questions. till I finish posting all the details? mean while can I recommend you watch the 5 videos maybe you will find some answers and Gazak Allah Khayran.   

 

here is part 5 link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlT6csFsmRI&feature=related

and let me stop here and remind myself and say to all the brothers and sisters reading this thread. what is posted is big and huge. it contains the at most warning our beloved prophet S.A.S and all messengers warned  from the fitnah of dajjal, and it is a sign of the first biggest sign which already been going on for the last 70 years, and it is coming to an end.

This is the first big sign. we all need to realize it is not just a research we found an answer for. it is not a disease we found a cure for. it is the beginning of an end.and a start for the real Islam to rise. 

wa alslam Alykom

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 Subject :Re:A late warning (The Dajjal rose up).. 2010-05-07 09:57:27 
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Salaam

It is very interesting to watch these videos and see the topic of dajaal from a different angle, below i have mentioned some the clues we have of dajaal and how they relate to your idea of dajaal being a system rather then one being. The one in bold and the questions below are some points which i have found in which you have not explained about the dajaal and how it links to your view of dajaal and the political system,

He will emerge between Shaam and Iraq, and his emergence will become known when he is in Isfahaan at a place called Yahudea. America/israel and its alliances will invade these countries, some have already been invaded, israels false biblical frontier tells them that their promised land reaches between the river euphrates and river nile

 


The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his main followers. We all know the jews support the system the most, their money, power and influence is given to america's dajaalic system. The jews of isfhaan i believe represent the ZIONIST jews, becuase not all jews support the dajalic system


Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well.

The dajaalic system was the one which gave false freedom to women, i.e. suffragetes, womens liberlisation, pornograpghy, political leadership etc

 
He will have with him fire and water, but in reality the fire will be cold water while that what appears to be cold water will in reality be a blazing fire.
Those who obey him will enter "his Jannat" while those who disobey him will enter "his Jahannam."

This symobilzes the modern luxuries, green card, visa etc. The ones who take the modern lifestyle as jannah will in reaility be living hell and those who reject the modern lifestyle will in reality be living in jannah 
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The letters "Kaa" "Faa" "Raa" will appear on his forehead and will be deciphered by all Mu'mineen regardless of them being literate or not. Can be viewed as the KFR on the US dollar as you have expalined or KFIR on israels warplanes. The real mu'mineen reject america's superpower and its luxuries, laws and money.

 
He will have a wheatish complexion. Can be described as obama and his administartion  


He will travel at great speeds and his means of conveyance will be a gigantic mule. It is said that he will play beautiful music which will attract the music lovers. Modern technology including aeroplanes, TV, hollywood etc, all developed by the modern dajaalic world 


Dajjal will lay claim to prophethood.
He will then lay claim to Divinity. This can be a result of total power over the world, i.e. world bank, NATO, Oil etc, the modern secular state already rejects gods law and call themselves god and the supreme rulers


He will perform unusual feats.
He will travel the entire world. He will send down rains upon those who believe in him, which in turn will cause good crops to grow, trees to bear fruit and cattle to grow fat.
He will cause drought to those who disbelieve in him, resulting in starvation and hardship for them.

This again indicates power, modern techonology, scientific revoloution etc, The HAARP project has been proven to cause weather changes, natrual disasters etc.


During those trying times the Mu'mineen will satiate their hunger through the recitation of Subhanallah and La'ilaha Ilallahu.

The ones who reject the modern secular laws and power will be in extreme poverty, poor health etc, take the likes of afghanistan, iraq, pakistan etc

The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command.

This symbolizes the modern economic system, in which wealth in made out of nothing, riba now controls wealth, majority of the world is in poverty because of this economic system. Technology to dig underground has brought unseen treasures, take for example oil, diamonds, etc

 He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal. 


He will be unable to enter Makkah because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven entrances to Madina; From Madina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imaam mahdi will be stationed.

America/israel and its allainces have never been able to enter and invade these two cities in arabia, allah has not and will not allow their armies to enter these holy cities, untill the noor of the kaabah and quran are taken up to allah.

Finally Isa (a.s) will descend from the heavens and pursue him and eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud).

We know ludd is a place in israel where its air force one is situated, we also know that dajaals main power will be in  the skies, i.e. aircraft, bombs, satellites etc. soon israel is poised to take over america, when ISA (a.s) descends israel will be superpower and have controll of the world, once the muslims armies led by imam mahdi and isa (a.s) enter LUDD they will destroy the army of ifsahaan and take control of the skies, now the superpower has been destroyed and muslims now become the last and final superpower.

 

This is my interpretation of dajaal and how it relates to your argument that dajaal is a system rather then a man. But their are a few issues in which im confused about and you have not explained in your videos.

1) The hadith in regards to dajaal living for 40 days etc

2) The dajaal is reffered to as ''AL MASIH DAJAAL'' the false messiah, I.E. impersonating the true messiah ISA (a.s.) who we know is soon returning on earth. It was the jews that rejected the true messiah many years ago and are still waiting for their messiah, their prophet moses (a.s) had told them of a messiah who will come and do the following

. liberate the holy land

' return of jews to holyland

. messiah will rule from jerusalem on thr thrown of prophet david (a.s)

. bring back the golden age

So the jews are waiting for a messiah who we know is isa (a's) but they the jews rejected him so they are still waiting for their messaih! the question is the following

Will dajaal come as a man at the end claiming to be the true messiah, god etc and the jews and those who are blind will fail to recognize the truth and be doomed? or will they be no false human messiah but a false system who they will believe to be the messiah?

3) We know that when ISA (A.S) returns he will KILL dajaal, and some hadith say he will melt or sizzle into salt. Is it possible to kill a system?

4) we know that in suarah an nisa allah says that the jews and the christains must believe in him isa as the son of mary before he dies or they die. Does this mean those who support and believe america and its alliances as the all powerful have taken the system to be the messiah? so when the real messiah who comes (who will be one man) it will be too late for those who belived in the false messiah (in your view the system) and will have failed the test, like pharoah was too late the blind people of today will be too late.

 

I hope to hear from your replies soon, but i am happy that someone has shown light on dajaal from a different angle and has explained it well.

Allah knows best

 

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I agree with the admin about his views on this issue.  Burning schools and throwing acid in women's faces is not my idea of a revolution.  The pathans of swat joined the military to oust the extremists.  The Taliban in Afghanistan and in Pakistan are two different entities.  One is fighting to liberate themselves and the other is trying to enslave the masses.  "There is no compulsion in religion",  I think people forget that.  I think Turkey is the only country that is having a proper revolution at the moment.  They are educating the people rather than pointing weapons at them.  I would also point you to a film, "The Revolution will not be televised".  Based on Hugo Chavez's movement in Venezuela.  His success was due largely to educating the people and teaching them their rights.  I have to yet meet a religious movement that gives the people their due rights.  They shift blame whenever possible and point fingers without offering any solutions.  And then they call everyone who doesnt agree with them zionists. 

Sheikh Imran offers solutions on this forum which many people overlook.
His ideology is very different from the fanatics that post on this forum. 



[umerislam 2010-05-07 01:55:22]:

Few suggestions have been given by my friends which I show you

1.Support the Taliban until they liberate afghanistan and once they liberate afghanistan then they will surely come to Pakistan.we should prepare ourselves to welcome them

2.ullamas of all maslak/sects should be united,choose a Ameer then get the students of madarasas,colleges and universities and people with them and then block the parliment houses and president house and so on until the Govt demolishes

3.force the Govt to do referendum on implimenting shariah in Pakistan.

4.Join Jammat e Islami and vote for it so that it wins the election and then impliment shariah.

5.join Tanzeem e Islami . I think Point 2 is similar to Tanzeem e Islami

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Few suggestions have been given by my friends which I show you

1.Support the Taliban until they liberate afghanistan and once they liberate afghanistan then they will surely come to Pakistan.we should prepare ourselves to welcome them

2.ullamas of all maslak/sects should be united,choose a Ameer then get the students of madarasas,colleges and universities and people with them and then block the parliment houses and president house and so on until the Govt demolishes

3.force the Govt to do referendum on implimenting shariah in Pakistan.

4.Join Jammat e Islami and vote for it so that it wins the election and then impliment shariah.

5.join Tanzeem e Islami . I think Point 2 is similar to Tanzeem e Islami

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Black water has not only rented houses in Islamabad, but also in Peshwar & Sindh. They are being provided security by local police and they are free to take video shots. they have been provided licenses of arms which are banned in Pakistan. They are allowed to freely move even in restricted area. Even if by chance, any honest police officer catch them, retired army officer & Government officials comes forward to get them free. And its not only Black Water i.e Xe, but also other US intelligence agencies, which are notorious in target killing, and in detecting nuclear arms, also present in Pakistan. Even the houses they have rented, some of them were published in news paper. The highest corrupt and cruel person is ruling the state with his zionist team. All politicians are the chips of the same block. All US agencies are not in Pakistan to play friendly cricket match. I dont know what the hell (excuse my language) army & its intelligence is doing. Bunch of secular people got muslim names. I dont know when someone wants to kill himself, how can you stop it. Same rule apply to nation. But still, hope for the best. There are many pious people in the country which are not visible. I hope something good will happen soon InshaAllah. Allah, Most Merciful is watching all Zionist plans. And Almighty Allah has always plan too. No doubt HE PLANS BEST.
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Salam alaikoum brother Elvinkclain and brother Momin

So this heaven's army will appear in the future with hazrat Imam Al-Mahdi and Issa (Jesus) alaihi essalam in Medina and other battles, like the last battle of Palestine. Inshallah.

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Salam alaykoum and jazakoum Allah khairan. Well. Pursue in this way dear brother Safehhh.
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ASAK

Well said brother Kashif, this does look like a conspiracy - Also, I was wondering why US troops were closing in on Hemland province in Afg (Its borders w/ Baluchistan) & the evidence that Blackwater has been active in Pak lately - this is all the prep work

The worst part of the story pertains to our leader - the worst guy that could run the country :: there are reports that govt allowed US marines to land in Islamabad w/o even visas - currently around 200 houses are rented in Isb where these troops are residing - I believe collecting intel

Allah knows best, but, how can you expect someone to care for your country's sovergnity when he's known to get sold for anything - some people believe even for his own wife -Today in the Sind cabinet alone: the guy is 74 yrs old his bro in law is secretary of something & daughter or son is another secretary - all relatives holding those positions - listen to this sharmila farooqi's interview on Point Blank -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6peWbQo5fw 

May Allah protect & guide us all

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Alslam Alyko wa rahmto Allah

The dajjal truth continue

Now let us remember we do not need to see Allah S.W. to worship him or to obey him or to follow his system. This is very important to remember.

So if you don’t follow that system as a Muslim you are not Obeying Allah S.W. which means you are not worshiping Allah S.W.

When Prophet Mohamad S.A.S sent to the universe he never spoke from his own, it was a Wahyin Yoha Alamaho shaded Alkowa, especially about the future events all the Ahadith talking about the Dajjal or wars or the judgment day was giving to him By Gabriel A.S.

Now the people from 1400 years ago were a very simple minded people and the politic systems and the economy systems were very primitive even the word economy or politics didn’t exist.

On Prophet Mohamad S.A.W.S time When you search more in History you will find that the systems were very depending on products exchange through the trip of Summer and Winter ( rehlat alheta’ wa alsayf) which was translated in Gold from the Roman Empire,. The control of the system (product exchange) was the main reason and factor why Koryish rejected Prophet Mohamed S.A.S message which was discarding all the Gods and worshipping the only God Allah S.W. that was the biggest threat for the Leaders of Koryish to reject the Message, they knew he was right, they knew he speaks the truth, but they thought that following Prophet Mohamad Message (following Allah S.W. system) will damage the pilgrimage profet and destroy the economy, they chose not to follow the true system and to follow the shirk life system for the reason of profet and control, Symbolled in the idols.  In a twenty first century economic language, the hard currency controlling the flow of products between the Roman Empire and a small country called Arabia, was a real influence for that country to adapt a new total Politic, economic and social system like Islam which contradict all their life system. As a conclusion, no one wanted to follow the new system (Islam) (worship Allah the one), because of the main reason the economy.  ( to be continued ella an yasha allah)

please watch the Dajjal truth part1 for easy follow up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZaHxGbfgU&feature=related

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Alslam alykom Brother Momin and Brother Zeid and all who see with his heart.

Gazakom Allah S.W khayran for your comments, and may Allah S.W.  guide and keep us all in his path and protect from this living fitnah . please warn every brother and sister you know and you dont know. I would like to give the credit of this heart and vision opening to Allah S.W then to a humble and intelligent scholar Shiek Imran. 

 

wa alslam alykom for now

 

 

 

 

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Amazing. You did your job brother elvinkclain by posting this article. JazakAllah. You have raised my positive feelings. Thats why I always say, why we need to afraid, we have a spiritual force with us, a force of Allah. Who can defeat us, no one. We just need to call Allah for HIS Almighty force of angels. Its a promise of Allah in the Quran to the believers. And no doubt, HE The Most Merciful, does not break HIS promises. SubhanAllah.

 

 

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Brother safehhh, good work. I posted these videos before but your explanation in detail is good.. Also brother zeid is correct about CFR.

JazakAllah

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Khurasaan Jihaad Monitor 

13 Jewish soldiers and 100s more were injured in an 'intense battle' with the Mujaahideen (April 9th). How did the Mujaahideen injure and kill so many Jewish soldiers? By throwing stones?... 

Allaahu Akbar, walillahilhamd, Help from Allaah for our brothers and sisters in Falasteen has come; an army from the Heavens.... I recieved this information from a leader of Hamas in Junain, this news will surely heal and ease the hearts of the mu'mins. Abu al-Barra' says: 

My brothers and sisters in Islaam, 

I swear with the name of Allaah, that I and my brethrens saw the Jewish soldiers running away from the battlefield like cowards, leaving the injured and their weapons behind. A few of our brothers from the Mujaahideen reported yesterday (10/4/2002) that some of the Jewish soldiers shot each other during the battle. 

And more strangely, the Mujaahideen didn't even fire a sinlge shot at the Jews, but mysteriously, the Mujaahideen heard shots being fired at the Jews (none of the Mujaahids used their weapons). And then we heard a Jewish soldier who survived the battle, running and shouting, "I saw fierce looking creatures coming towards us, to attack us.The creatures are not humans." 

The incident was reported to TV ANN. The next morning, when i woke up for fajr prayers, I saw on the TV, Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi was being interviewed. Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi said: "Bismillahir Rahmaani Raheem, I swear with the name of Allaah, the Most High, that have been making duah to Allaah for His Help 12 days ago and by Allaah, Allaah's help has indeed come. I swear with the name of Allaah, that I saw in my dream an army from the Heavens come down to Junain to help and fight side by side with the Mujaahideen. What i am saying now is the Truth, and I will be responsible for what I am saying, in front of Allaah, yawmul Qiyaamah. And I am reporting this sanely, and Allaah bears witness that what i am saying is the Truth. I also wish to add that the Mujaahideen fast the whole day during the battle. Till we meet again, in Jannah insha'Allaah." 

Translation by Abu Jihaad (JazakAllaah). 

Commentry (HammerStorm): There are countless examples of Allaah's Help coming down to assist the Mujahideen in battle. One of the most common statements uttered by the enemy, be he Serb, Soviet, Hindu or a Jew, is "We saw these large creatures coming towards us! Beasts! We did not know what they were!" or something similar. This is because the Angels sent by Allaah usually manifest themselves to the enemy, in order to cast terror into their hearts. 

It happened during the Battle of Badr, when the dejected leaders of the Quraysh returned after the defeat, they were complaining about the defeat and added: "...and we also had to deal with these strange riders of horses who rode bewteen the heavens and earth; their hooves did not touch the ground..." 

It has happenned time and time again; and Allaah has promised His Help during such events. 

In recent times: 

During the Soviet conflict: Often the Mujahideen would defeat Soviet forces, and then ask them in astonishment "How is is that you were captured by us? You have stronger weapons and tanks, how were you defeated?" (i.e. the victor was asking the loser how he, the loser, lost) The Soviets would reply saying that "Your people were on these horses, and everytime we shot at them, they would move very quickly and avoid our bullets, so this is how we lost." (from Shaykh Abdullah Azzam(ra)) 

(Mujahideen had no clue what they were talking about) 

There was were incidents in Bosnia. One for example, where a small group of brothers were defending an outpost when they noticed a column of the Serbian army advancing upon their position. The mujahideen were very small in number and very heavily out-gunned and outnumbered. They considered two options: calling for back-up and waiting, or confronting the much larger Serbian force. They decided on the latter option and ran towards the Serbians, yelling Allaahu Akbar and aiming their weapons. The Serbians stopped, bewildered at first and then many of them started to turn back and run away in fear. The Mujahideen kept pursuing them and caught and bound many of them. They asked the Serbs what had made them turn around and run even though they were the larger force, and the Serbs asked "Where are those huge black beasts that were running alongside you? We saw them and we did not know what they were so we ran..." ('Under the Shades of Swords') 
(Mujahideen had no clue what they were talking about) 

In Sheeshaan, in the current 1999-present conflict, there was one event where the Mujahideen were defending this town, which was well known for being home to a large Islamic educational center. Behind the town was a mountain. The Russians came in order to lay siege to the town; they came with a very heavy force to initiate the siege. The Mujahideen put up as valiant a defense as they could. Soon they noticed tanks being decimated and Russian soldiers being ripped apart by a hail of bullets that was coming from the direction of the mountain. The mujahideen knew that none of their forces were on the mountain. The Russians retreated after being inflicted heavy losses. (Qoqaz) 

In the recent fighting at Shah-e-Kot, there was an instance where the mujahideen left a mountain post which had a gun emplacement. After they were quite some distance from the post, they heard heavy firing coming from the guns, directed at American and allied forces below. One of the mujahideen was wondering what was going on, as he knew that no one had stayed behind at that post, so one of the veteran mujahideen smiled and said "Do you think we are the only ones fighting against them here? There are 'others' besides us." (Khurasaan) 

The Help of Allaah comes down at times like these, to aid the Mujahideen. 

In Sheeshaan, so many incidents like these, whereby the Angels came down to help and the Russians aw them and ran away, and many went psychologically mad (Qoqaz). Something the Russians will never tell you is that many of Israel's psychological treatment medical facilities are filled with Russian soldier who have gone mad from the war in Sheeshaan, they keep mittering about strange beings and beasts and ghosts seen during wartime. In general, the Kuffar dismiss such ravings as shell-shock, but the Yahuud, and those kuffar who have been on the battlefield know full well that the mujahideen are aided by a supernatural force (God's angels) but they will never admit it because they are stubborn in their Kufr. 

One thing I noticed, when the kuffar speak, and when they say this, you can be certain that they have witnessed the Angels coming down in battle: When Gen. Tommy Franks, or when Russian generals, or when IDF commanders say things like: "The fighting was very intense...very pitched battles....lethal combat....hardcore fighters..." when they say these things I know in their minds they are recalling the horror of seeing their own troops running away from or being cut down by unearthly beasts and supernatural beings, for which they will neither admit to nor have any explanation for. When they say such statements, and you can see the sweat on their foreheads as large as marbles, and they have difficulty explaining heavy losses agains a bunch of lightly armed Mujahideen....then you should know that they are referring to seeing such horrors of battle. 

The Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) as well as the Muslims set their arms aside after their return from the battle of the Trench. An account of what happened thereafter, as related by the traditions, is that Gabriel came to the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) and asked, “O Prophet of God, have you put aside your arms?” When the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) replied that he had, Gabriel said, “By Allaah, the angels have not yet laid down their arms. Allaah commands you”, continued Gabriel, “to march towards Banu Quraydha, and we will precede you to shake their fortresess and cast terror into their hearts.” 

The IDF had a tough time in Lebnaan. But look what the one of the Yahuudi soldiers said, concerning the Battle of Jenin, that Lebanon was "child's play compared to Jenin". (BBC)

source:(http://www.netmuslims.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3370)

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Salam alaikoum dear brother safehhh

Very good explanation and subject! Yes this is the truth, this is the truth, this is the truth.

And also C.F.RCouncil on Foreign Relations is KAFARA as I said before.

Good luck and Allah keep you.

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Why we are afraid of BJP? I understand their hate towards muslims but don't forget, doesn't matter whoever comes into power, they will go according to game plan set by Dajjal. If they have not attacked Pakistan yet, then BJP is not reason, they are waiting for right time.The current Indian Govt is also not less than BJP, only difference is they are working wisely and quitely. Dont forget Bombay drama & their cry all the time against Pakistan. So I would suggest dont afraid of BJP, just afraid of Allah and seek HIS help, we can beat 100 BJPs and InshaAllah we will. Just have full faith on Allah. As Allama Iqbal said, we can reverse the flow of river by having faith on Allah. We have done this before many times by will of Allah and InshaAllah will repeat history again. CHEERS.
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Asak

Right said Farhan Bhai .Coming of Congress in last2last Indian Elections was a miracle of Allah.Western media and zionist were hell bent in getting BJP elected again.The India Shining campaing and heavy inflow of foreign funds was to make people vote for BJP's second term.Allah knows best their was a complete turn around and Indian congress party came to power.Even congress party was not expecting it.As stage was all set for attacking pakistan by west for which  first step was already taken by installing Musharraf and then getting BJP elected for second term and rest would have been history.With no trace of pakistan on world map it was would have been a very different ball game altogether.But surely Allah is greatest planner and congress came to power which no one expected and another chance was given to them (Paki's) by Allah.Hope they realise it now and come back to straight path Amen.

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Wa alaikum assalaam.

Ummah in the time of the Messenger (s.a.w) was the politico-socio-econmic order he established. Islamic "states" is a misnomer. Rather you should call them Muslim majority countries.

Yes we do feel pain for our brothers & sisters; thats why we say to follow the example of the Messenger in responding to oppression! But if you feel otherwise bro, our duty is done, we have delivered the message and cannot/will not force anyone to agree.

If you are not clear on the Fiqh of Jihad and defense then I suggest that you study with a teacher who can teach it to you. Evidently you dont like what INH is teaching, so perhaps someone else would be better suited. However I would be very wary of a teacher which sends his students for Jihad but does not partake himself.

As for your statements on Ghandi, did you know that he worked with the muslims of India to restore Khilafat after it was destroyed? What must have been the quality of the Muslims of that time to have such a profound influence on him and what must have been his character to put asside his personal religious difference to join in the struggle for the khilafat.

Sadly today Muslims have even forgotten about Khilafat and have forgotten that the AIM of JIHAD/QITAAL is the ESTABLISHMENT or DEFENCE or EXTENSION of DARUL ISLAM, not REVENGE or NATIONALISM.

So thats my last on this topic, have some other things to do as well. If anyone is in doubt, please listen to the lecture on Islam and the Political Order (in the audio section) then create a new thread with that topic if there are any questions insha Allah.



[addiyat 2010-05-04 07:46:45]:

As you wrote," As I have said in other places, if you are in a situation of direct assault, according to Islam your choice is clear. It's not clear to me.

Ain't we under attack as a Ummah? What's been happening to Islamic states in the last 60-70 years  qualify for the term ' Direct attack"?!!!

Our beloved prophet(PBUH) taught us to take all the Ummah as a body, and if one part hurts, the rest must feel the pain.

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This is what I want to know how Pakistani Taliban are so religious & pious & working to raise Islam according to Quran & Sunnah. Its not wise to become so hopeless and consider every one Zionist. Pakistani army no doubt doing sinful war against own people. But dont blame whole army.As per my knowledge, Pakistani Army totally rule by Core Commanders & top Generals. There are many excellent & Islamic minded people in the rank of Majors, Captains, Colonel & some Generals. If by Allah will, change may appear from any level, even public can bring the change. I dont know how, but I am not disappointed. So keeping my hopes alive, I prey for Pakistan and for whole ummah.
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Assalaaam O Alaikum Dear Brothers,

As brother Kashif mentioned in the below posts that Pakistani Army is attacking Taliban as per the orders from the zionist leaders and the USA and Talibans are fighting in order to defend themselves. 

I found the insights of brother Kashif useful and it seems to me that he is right. Earlier, I had the same mind set as brother Momin had. The questions which brother Momin raised are also valid. After analyzing brother Momin and Kashif's views, I have some personal views on this scenario which I would like to share with you.

I think that the Pakistani Army (which is now secular) is targetting the places (like Masjid, Madarasa etc) where there is a higher possibility of finding Talibans (i.e. the fundamentalist of Islam).

My views are - i) Taliban's family also live as normal citizens in Pakistan and its a difficult or I would say an impossible task to differentiate between them in general.

ii) The army attacks on these houses in search of Talibans. The army also attacks the masjids and madaaris following the orders of their zionist leaders.

iii) When the army attacks, Talibans try to defend themselves and their family and fight with the army. On one side the army kill these innocent people and the responsibility of such attacks are being imposed on the Talibans by the zionist media.

I do not have any support and proof to my views.It is just what it looks like could be a possiblility. And, Allah knows the best, he is omniscient.

I stay in India and here every non-muslim hate Pakistan to an extent and I am sure that a big war would have launched on Pakistan after 26/11 Mumbai attack in 2008 if the BJP government would have been in the politics. There was a huge planning and conspiracy done for that attack. But Alhamdolillaah, Allah s.w.t. showed His mercy and brought a new congress government in very odd situations for which we never hoped. And Allah s.w.t plannings are always the best.

May Allah guide us and give us the Noor in our heart so that we can identify the righteous and true momins and be with them and fight against the evil. Aamin.

 

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Assalam alaikum

                       My question from my brother kashif jamal is that

according to him all the muslim countries are zionist states. the media is kuffar media and he himself narrates that he didnt hear from the media about the martyrs in Bangladesh. my brother when u dont believe in media why are u referring to media. in islam when we dont like anything we avoid it. u criticize them yet listen to them. its unfair.you are so critical of everything. as a muslim we should also look at positive aspects. as for ur belief about the pakistani taliban. just tell me one thing can u please tell me where u belong to? and then i can tell u the stories of what is the inside story. pakistan is bad army is bad all are zionists. bangladesh are all zionists comeon man. it seems immature. just tell me from where u know about the TTP. I belong to the same place so u can show me ur sources and ur information.

wa Salam

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Nice interpretation brother hassan. We have named them Afganistan taliban in order to differentiate with Pakistani Taliban otherwise they call themselves Taliban.You are right, so called Taliban in Pakistan should not put the label of Pakistan alongwith their name which leads to nationalism.
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Something that connects to my previous post. I love this interpretation by Br. Hosein. Its from A Muslim Response to the Attack on London Essay.

"Oh you who believe (In this Quran), when a sinful (Wicked) person conveys news to you (for example, that Arabs and Muslims and some fictitious 'Islamic' organization called al-Qaidah are terrorists and are responsible for acts of terrorism in New York, London, etc.) be sure to investigate the truthfulness of such news lest, in ignorance, you (are deceived by lies and you) blame the innocent and then live to regret and be full of repentance for what you did (by unwittingly joining the wicked war on Islam and the character assassination of innocent Muslims)"

 Quran, al-Hujurat, 49:6)

So if we think about this interpretation, we wouldn't be arguing about Paki Taliban this or Afghani Taliban that. All these cliches are part of the nationalism game.

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Salam

We should drop the cliche statements which we pick up from the media such as Pakistani Taliban, Afghan Taliban, Terrorists etc...The fact of the matter is, there are some people fighting for justice hence they are rightly guided, while others have different agendas, and those with different agendas not only exist on the Euro-American non-Muslim side, but there are Muslims also who are doing this, hence the Ayah applies and truly, they are allied with the Kufar. There is alot of research out there from all sides but the majority opinion amongst honest Political scientists which is a minority verifies the Muslim's claim to truth. 

Alot of foreign covert agencies and black ops personel are operating inside Pakistan. The formerly known mercenary Group Blackwater now called (XE) has been inside Pakistan for years. The Ceo of this organization is Erik Prince, his lineage goes back to European families which were part of the Crusades. XE is one of the biggest groups in Pakistan today, and there is credible information out there which explains that they are responsible for the many terrorist attacks which kill innocent people. The Blame always goes to some known or unknown rag tag fighters, who many at times are proud to take credit to give credibility to their organizations. The truly just fighters who are fighting for Allah and Allah only to establish justice, will never take credit and dont put themselves out in the media. 

Many of the individuals from XE pose as Muslims sometimes. Bomb blasts orchestrated and set off in major cities have a purpose, to fool the public in to thinking that Muslim fighters are ruthless and dont care. And in many cases it is working, because in this very blog we are talking and questioning about such blasts thinking that they are from legitimate just Islamic organizations, when in reality, its the overt and covert agencies which are doing this.  

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Exactly and why is the pakistani taliban killing innocent families in pakistan if they are so pious and righteous? Islam prohibits killing innocent people as ALLAH revealed in the quran that killing one innocent person is like killing the whole of humanity. Furthermore, i saw an interview of a member of the pakistani taliban on television. He said that his ameer told him that if innocent people die in his attack , he is not be blamed. how horrible? The average person in pakistan is constantly under fear because of terrorism that these pakistani taliban are responsible for. Even me myself intend to travel to pakistan for higher studies but i am scared because of the recent wave of terror attacks that smothered pakistan.
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Good observation brother. Looks like this is going to happen. The great Middle East war may involve rest of the world including China & Russia and can end up to WW3. After the horrible destruction of mankind, the real Dajjal face may appear and will start controlling the world from Israel. And Allah knows best.





[asadamjadali 2010-05-04 14:29:33]:

Salaam Alaikum

Economist and stats no doubt indicate chine becoming the next super power in the world . There are some who say that it can be india as well.

This holds true if things continue as they are . For things to be as they are two things should be there for china and India to be the next Super Power :

a) The US Dollar should have a value . Not necessarily a strong value but a value.

b) The Paper Currency system should continue.

Maulana Imran Hosein analysed that when Israel begins its Great Middle East War , The Wealthy Jewish Bankers and Brokers with their deceptive skills of causing market turbulency and speculation will collapse the US Dollar and the Paper Currency System with it . (All other currencies too will get nullified after Dollar Collapses).

Concurrently with the Dollar Collapse and the Paper Currency Collapse Israel will Grab All Arab Oil and the Suez Canal which is an important strategic route . With this resources by it's side it will make the entire world hostage and make it kneel down before it .

Lets not forget that though China and India are emerging super powers they are heavily dependant on Oil on a Daily basis . Sudden abrupt export of Oil to these countries will bring their economy to a standstill.

After having reached that Stage (with the control of Arab Oil and Suez Canal) and bringing the world down on it's knees holding Oil as Ransom , Israel will give the rest of the world no choice but to accept the e-money system of a centralised bank from Jerusalem and maybe we will have new accords written at that time which will make Israel the new economic super power (like bretton woods accords which made USA the economic super power).

WHAT WILL THE REST OF THE WORLD DO WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENS:

Well they will just wait and watch as Israel will be backed by USA and UK all along . USA and UK will also forsake their membership of the UN which will cause the UN to be kicked out of New York and that will also trigger the collapse of the UN as an Organisation.

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I would suggest brother Kashif Jamal to read my question carefully rather than jump over to the conclusion. I did not say that Pakistani Taliban should not fight with Pakistani army. I have never said Pakistan army is doing right thing. I do agree they are playing in the hand of Zionist so I dont know why you need to provide unrelated example. My point is assuming every army person be the part of Zionist game is wrong. There were many blasts in Pakistan that were targeted to army but killed mostly innocent civilians. So if army is attacking and killing innocent people then fight with that army.

Also I dont agree with your idea to leave Pakistan army. A person can struggle and seek truth while having a uniform. That's how you can bring the change.

And your comment about me that "If I have any knowledge about Islam", and my answer is Yes, AlhamdulilAllah I do have. I dont mind that part because it does not absolutely effect me or my faith. I am only worried about where I stand in front of Allah.

Do you have any source where we can get facts about Pakistani Taliban, I mean any website or article.

May Allah guide us.

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hamid gul is sympathetic to pakistani army and isi,he is a liar.

secondly the same hameed gul said (before paki army started operation against taliban) that CIA has taken baitullah mehsood to safe place inside afghanistan  before pak armys operation,but after few weks baitulah mehsood was martyred by american drone attacks inside tribal areas of pakistan.hameed gul and mirza aslam baig  are so shameless that they did not even ask forgiveness for these balatant lies .hameed gul and aslam baig like people pose as islamists but infact work for pak army and pak army works for zionists now

may allah shut the mouth of these double agents

you ask that is it right to attack pakistani army by taliban?

well its a very strange question!is it right to defend yourself when you are being attacked by some one?if a muslim attacks zaids home does zaid have right to protect his life and his wifes honour from that muslim? or should zaid allow his wife to be raped because the attacker is muslim!!!oh my gosh !!!!!!!!!!!do these simple questions need some fatwa or as honourable man zaid should kill the guy raping his wife?think yourself!

you may say that as pakistani army is muslim army so taliban should not fight them,if you have some knowledge about islam than you know that by siding with kufars the pak army is no longer among muslims as proven by below ayat

O YOU WHO BELIEVE !(MUSLIMS) TAKE NOT THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS YOUR FRIENDS ,THEY  ARE BUT FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER .AND IF ANY AMONGST YOU TAKES THEM AS FRIENDS THEN SURELY ,HE IS ONE OF THEM.VERILY ,Allah GUIDES NOT THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ZAULIMUN(wrongdoing folks,unjust and polytheists)  (SURA ALMAIDAH AYAT NO. 51)

 

pak army and airforce is bombing madrasas and killing hundreds of religious islamic students in nwfp area daily in name of operation.under orders from usa.and you expect that taliban do not fight them back

we muslims should remember that till we do not have knowledge about jihad you are not full muslim

any religious man still in our army should leave it now,as this army as a whole is an army fighting for zionist interests.and its crazy and foolish to say that taliban should not defend themselves

ofcourse when you kill taliban and there children daily then they have the right to attack you,simple logic this is ,it does not need fatwas

if pak army stops fighting against taliban under american orders than taliban ofcourse too will stop these attacks

its pity that even so called pious people in pakistan are still siding with army when it is now open fact that this army is fully working for zionists agenda..thereby such people loose all their good deeds

 



[momin 2010-05-04 17:39:26]:

Appreciate your reply brother Kashif Jamal. I have said in my earlier post(not in this one) that among Pakistani Taliban, there are many pious people but the leadership is not good. Now you have showed another side of the picture but that would be great if you can provide any source. I have not heard and read on any website if Pakistani Taliban is connected to Mullah Omar. Mulla Umer has urgued Pakistani Taliban to fight with them not with Pakistan army(I dont know if it is 100% right). Also I heard an interview of Hamid Gul in which he said Pakistani Taliban is created by CIA. I am not refering any Zionist controlled media news but the news came from the mouth of General Hamid Gul. I dont know if he is also the part of a big game which I dont think so. Can you explain who is doing all killing and blasts in Pakistan. Is it the Pakistan army killing their own man within Pakistani cities? If its Pakistani Taliban then does it justify to kill anyone wearing army uniform.Though Pakistan army is playing in Zionist hands but my understanding is Pakistani army including their intelligence has some great people.

I have never said that arms & equipment doesn't play role in wars. When you speak about war equipment, talk about faith as well. Zionist with all their latest eqipment are facing defeats in Afghanistan just beacuse of faith they were blessed by Almighty Allah.

We can understand how corrupt and cruel chain of Dajjal is.

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gandhis philosophy of licking feet of your enemy has been unfortunately adopted by most indian muslims,who in majority are against jihad in kashmir and else,even darul uloom deoband india  has given fatwas afainst jihad repeatedly in recent past

this gaandhi geeri is biggest evil among muslims,castrating them into coward beings,this philosophy is the reason that when henidus mass killed and raped muslims after babri mosque fall and recently in gujrat than indian muslims still did not defend themselves,if these gandhi muslims had some islam left in them they had bravely fought back against hindu killers and rapists,but sadly the muslims there have adopted the  gandhis philosophy of kissing the boots of everyone and joining your hands in submission against every enemy  

a true muslim is brave and he fears only allah,he does not remain silent when his women are being gangraped by kufar

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Appreciate your reply brother Kashif Jamal. I have said in my earlier post(not in this one) that among Pakistani Taliban, there are many pious people but the leadership is not good. Now you have showed another side of the picture but that would be great if you can provide any source. I have not heard and read on any website if Pakistani Taliban is connected to Mullah Omar. Mulla Umer has urgued Pakistani Taliban to fight with them not with Pakistan army(I dont know if it is 100% right). Also I heard an interview of Hamid Gul in which he said Pakistani Taliban is created by CIA. I am not refering any Zionist controlled media news but the news came from the mouth of General Hamid Gul. I dont know if he is also the part of a big game which I dont think so. Can you explain who is doing all killing and blasts in Pakistan. Is it the Pakistan army killing their own man within Pakistani cities? If its Pakistani Taliban then does it justify to kill anyone wearing army uniform.Though Pakistan army is playing in Zionist hands but my understanding is Pakistani army including their intelligence has some great people.

I have never said that arms & equipment doesn't play role in wars. When you speak about war equipment, talk about faith as well. Zionist with all their latest eqipment are facing defeats in Afghanistan just beacuse of faith they were blessed by Almighty Allah.

We can understand how corrupt and cruel chain of Dajjal is.

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well .till there are islam loving and allah fearing people like you still in bangladesh their is always hope of the best.inshalah.

you have written that some people embraced martyrdom in bangldesh against this satanic govt.strangely no such news i read in media.its because i guess media is under kufar and munafiqeens control all over the world

present bangladeshi govt banned use of islam in political parties name and later banned hijab in many places thus showing their hatred against islam....

muslims should know that by banning islamic hadood they invite allahs azab on themselves,and allahs azab is a thing to fear

alas that today heavy majority of  muslim ummah including their ulema have become corrupt and they compromise on their religion for material benefits,,,its big big azaab on this ummah

muslims now love nationalism more than they love islam,thus they have become munafiqeen now,just by name muslims

and brother i liked that you wrote against philosophey of gandhi

gandhi and his philosophy is biggest evil on sub continent.pure deception and in reality hatred against islam



[addiyat 2010-05-04 07:27:13]:


Dear brother kashif jamal

Assalamu'alaikum,

I feel really ashamed about Bangladesh. It's been taken as a pawn by the corrupted politicians since it got independence. Now the AL government tries hard to instill a secular pagan state mostly influenced by 'India'. Alhamdulillah, it's a country of 150 million Muslims and some activities against this satanic plot already surfaced in the past and some of our brothers happily embraced martyrdom.

Some religious parties do operate here. But they are rather like ' Wolf in a sheep- skin'. All corrupted morally and they just remain in the scene for 'Money' and 'Power' and mass propaganda to lull this huge population to sleep. Poverty stricken and violence and wholesale corruption have really afflicted this nation. IMF and World bank have already sabotaged this country's morality by putting pressure on it to leave it's value and identity as an Islamic country with an exchange of 'Western Dreams". Needless to say the US and EU's efforts to neutralize it and make it an impotent Muslim state as they fear it can erupt one day against all the wrongs. 

 

I am hopeful, If ALLAH(SWT) wills, this population will rise from the slumber and fight for the cause of Islam.

 



[kashif jamal 2010-05-03 23:03:51]:


addiyat i have question for u

 

haseena wajids govt in bangladesh is worse anti islam govt in muslim world,they are doing everything against islamic ideology

what common bangladeshis feel about it and why no religious party there struggles practically against this evil of zionist hindu agent the haseena wajid


 


 


[addiyat 2010-04-28 16:34:59]:

Brothers Assalamu alikum<

'How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan'?

 

Well, Is it a mere question for the sake of questioning? Or a sincere appeal that really sets it's firm foothold? - This thing needs to be crystallized first.

We can see flurry of wisdom and knowledge here and there and also see people going back to 'comfort zone' satisfying the constant knock on their veil on soul.

Jihad has been obligatory long...long... ago and some real Muslims already have delivered the call around the world and are in it. This Jihad is not only in mind but the militant one. Don't know why the scholars still hesitate even after unveiling the conspirators mindset to us!!!!!!!!

It's wiser to look around.

We are certainly not told to follow that cowardice and feet licking, shameful doctrine of Mahatma Gandhi. That approach only makes the Muslims impotent, who take vow to be righteous of all on earth. Many Muslim states have become so. 

Knowledge and signs are for those who act - in Islam in every second/minute/hour/year

President Obama can be proud of having Islamic link, but for him that is meant to be burning in hell with his Master, Iblish/Satan.

It's really sad to see when good endeavor goes nowhere but confined in brain cells!!!!

Revolution starts by not asking publicly but with diplomacy and joining up the forces, who are already in it. One has to just look around relying on ALLAH(SWT) with a pristine 'Niyat'
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well the problem is that we muslims nowdays blindly believe the media.let me explain

you say that "pakistani taliban are zionist funded"

have you any proof of this statement or you are believing pakistani zionist armies propoganda machine that is making taliban look like satans to legitimise operations against them under orders from america?

if you had ever visited fata you would have known that some of pakistani taliban groups are even more pious than afghan taliban groups

khadija qahar who was kidnapped by agencies in pakistan few years ago writes that i have never seen more pious people than pakistani taliban who are picture of what true muslim should be like.mujahid in day and worshipping allah at night.she was a canadian convert muslim who wanted to reveal talibans true beautiful face to world but agancies kidnapped and maybe killed her

 

secondly when pakistani talibans ameer baitulah mehsood was made chief of taliban he was made so under direct orders from mullah omar according to very valid and solid reports that ofcourse do not come in kufar media.kufar and munafiqeens media distorts the face of our true heroes the mujahideen.kufar and munafiqeen are biggest liars in world

problem with present day muslims is that they trust media which is actually the mouth piece of kufar.wake up ,or you too will be caught in dajaals web .dajals biggest weapon is media

 

pakistani taliban regularly send troops inside afghganistan to fight against nato and americans,,,the jordanian mujahid who blew up afghani CIA building killing top ten CIA satans of america was trained and sent inside afghanistan by pakistani taliban,his video along with hakeem ullah mehsood you must have seen i hope.

why are you listening to kufar and munafiq media?

go and see yourself how pious and brave pakistani taliban are who are daily getting killed by their own munafiq brothers and by american drones and still they do not leave path of allah

why cant you see that if pakistani taliban were american agents according to munafdiq pakistani army ,than why would american drones daily attack them and kill them

so be a muslim ,muslim should be able to differentiate between truth and falsehood..if we get caught in medias deceptions now than how we hope to save ourselves from biggest fitna of mankind that is dajal

mashalah pakistani taliban regularly send large groups of mujahideen to fight zionists inside afghanistan..recently afghan taliban publically said that thousand or so men from pakistani taliban helped afghani taliban against american offensive

 

so you can not seperate afghani and pakistani taliban,they are same,most of them are even related by blood.pray for their steadfastness instead of creating doubts

 

pakistani taliban only fight against paki army because pakistan army attacked them first on american orders,otherwise before this pakistani taliban were friends of army

when under attack what were pakistani taliban supposed to do?lie down and ask pak army people to slaughter them?islam orders us to fight against munafiqeen too,so taliban fought against munafiq pakistani army and its supporters.now how does that make pakistani taliban  zionist supporters?

as for your second observation i agree that faith in allah is the most important thing in war ,but material arms are also needed in war my brother! or prophet ( s a w ) would not have nine swords when he passed away from this world

dont you think that if afghan taliban have airforce they would wipe out the kufars bases in no time.wont it help if taliban got nuclear weapons and airforce plus missiles of long range.that is what i am talking about.i hope there are still few allah fearing people left in pakistani army and they hand over these weapons to taliban before pakistani ship sinks in face of indian and american attack

pakistani army is now mostly a secular army,secular armies cant face any war and they run away.iraqs example we have .where the iraqi secular army ran away in face of american attack,so arming true muslim groups  like taliban is only way to save pakistan and islamic ummah as whole too.

and yes...anyone is entitled to have his or her own views and is later responsible for them too

i understand that pakistani majority is on barelvi sect and due to this they do not like taliban who have salafi beliefs.but they should remember that by siding kufar and munafiqeen against these true lions of allah they have chosen a clear side,and in akhira they will be raised with people they supported.that is zionists and munafiqeen




[momin 2010-05-04 14:06:59]:

I do agree with brother Kashif Jamal theroy but I need detail from my brother for his following bold highlited points:

secondly pakistani nation has some very brave islamists groups like taliban

Do not confuse Pakistani Taaliban with Afghanistan mujahideen. pakistani Talibaan creating problems for Pakistan & killing innocent people. Pakistani Talibaan leaders are Zionist funded. 

also pakistan has big pile of weapons and if it somehow comes in hands of islamists than inshalah no one can defeat them

What Islamist group you are referring here. Don't tell me Pakistani Talibaan. Do not fall in trap of western media, this is what they are screaming that Pakistani N weapons may go in the hands of Islamist. No doubt Pakistan MashaAllah has sophisticated all kinds of weapons but here in this forum I have noted that my Pakistani brothers are more talking about technology than faith in Allah. Afghanistan Taliban does not posses modern weapons but they have and they are defeating Empires. So I suggest its good to talk about weapons as they are the means to fight but also need to add faith which is important than any thing else. This is what "FAITH" our muslim ummah lost long time ago.

a pious man predicted a year back that both america and india will attack pakistan at one time one from east border and one from west

There are many prediction and prophecies about Pakistan including disaster they may face and then a revival. But Pakistani nation has to work on it. They are currently standing at the edge of civil war.I am sure if they can bring a positive change within themselves by following Quran & Ahadith, Allah has given  skills to this nation to become a barrier for enemies and they can become a solid rock of Islam InshaAllah.

I would add no doubt Allah has provided Pakistani nation resources and man power. No doubt they can bring a change. Unfortunately they are not working for it.

May Allah protect Pakistan and muslim Ummah from all evils and guide us to live life according to Quran & Sunnah.

 

 



[kashif jamal 2010-05-04 12:58:17]:

the wise muslims already know that america and its evil partners want to attack pakistan directly soon,

even i who is a commoner wrote more than an year back that the excuse for attacking pakistan will be created by americans after some sort of attack on newyork.

now we can see that even though no bomb blasted the american media is blowing trumpet that pakistani islamists did this attack

 

anyway sooner or later something bigger will be arranged and islamists in pakistan will be blamed and than pakistan will be attacked like iraq and afghanistan,than a  struggle and jihad against  americans and their pakistani agents will begin here i guess

but remember.pakistan is much bigger country than iraq and afghanistan,so bloodshed can be horrible

secondly pakistani nation has some very brave islamists groups like taliban so battle in pakistan will be may be a decisive war or crusade

also pakistan has big pile of weapons and if it somehow comes in hands of islamists than inshalah no one can defeat them

a pious man predicted a year back that both america and india will attack pakistan at one time one from east border and one from west

may be this war will also be punishment or azaab from allah for pakistans majority who has forgotten islam

 

but one positive thing is that atleast 20 percent area of pakistan is under islamists or taliban control,so in these areas inshalah america india will never win

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agreed what brother Shujat Kareem and brother Asadamjadali. Time is coming really hard for Pakistanis.Not much time left for them. All knowing to Allah
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Salaam Alaikum

Economist and stats no doubt indicate chine becoming the next super power in the world . There are some who say that it can be india as well.

This holds true if things continue as they are . For things to be as they are two things should be there for china and India to be the next Super Power :

a) The US Dollar should have a value . Not necessarily a strong value but a value.

b) The Paper Currency system should continue.

Maulana Imran Hosein analysed that when Israel begins its Great Middle East War , The Wealthy Jewish Bankers and Brokers with their deceptive skills of causing market turbulency and speculation will collapse the US Dollar and the Paper Currency System with it . (All other currencies too will get nullified after Dollar Collapses).

Concurrently with the Dollar Collapse and the Paper Currency Collapse Israel will Grab All Arab Oil and the Suez Canal which is an important strategic route . With this resources by it's side it will make the entire world hostage and make it kneel down before it .

Lets not forget that though China and India are emerging super powers they are heavily dependant on Oil on a Daily basis . Sudden abrupt export of Oil to these countries will bring their economy to a standstill.

After having reached that Stage (with the control of Arab Oil and Suez Canal) and bringing the world down on it's knees holding Oil as Ransom , Israel will give the rest of the world no choice but to accept the e-money system of a centralised bank from Jerusalem and maybe we will have new accords written at that time which will make Israel the new economic super power (like bretton woods accords which made USA the economic super power).

WHAT WILL THE REST OF THE WORLD DO WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENS:

Well they will just wait and watch as Israel will be backed by USA and UK all along . USA and UK will also forsake their membership of the UN which will cause the UN to be kicked out of New York and that will also trigger the collapse of the UN as an Organisation.

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I do agree with brother Kashif Jamal theroy but I need detail from my brother for his following bold highlited points:

secondly pakistani nation has some very brave islamists groups like taliban

Do not confuse Pakistani Taaliban with Afghanistan mujahideen. pakistani Talibaan creating problems for Pakistan & killing innocent people. Pakistani Talibaan leaders are Zionist funded. 

also pakistan has big pile of weapons and if it somehow comes in hands of islamists than inshalah no one can defeat them

What Islamist group you are referring here. Don't tell me Pakistani Talibaan. Do not fall in trap of western media, this is what they are screaming that Pakistani N weapons may go in the hands of Islamist. No doubt Pakistan MashaAllah has sophisticated all kinds of weapons but here in this forum I have noted that my Pakistani brothers are more talking about technology than faith in Allah. Afghanistan Taliban does not posses modern weapons but they have and they are defeating Empires. So I suggest its good to talk about weapons as they are the means to fight but also need to add faith which is important than any thing else. This is what "FAITH" our muslim ummah lost long time ago.

a pious man predicted a year back that both america and india will attack pakistan at one time one from east border and one from west

There are many prediction and prophecies about Pakistan including disaster they may face and then a revival. But Pakistani nation has to work on it. They are currently standing at the edge of civil war.I am sure if they can bring a positive change within themselves by following Quran & Ahadith, Allah has given  skills to this nation to become a barrier for enemies and they can become a solid rock of Islam InshaAllah.

I would add no doubt Allah has provided Pakistani nation resources and man power. No doubt they can bring a change. Unfortunately they are not working for it.

May Allah protect Pakistan and muslim Ummah from all evils and guide us to live life according to Quran & Sunnah.

 

 



[kashif jamal 2010-05-04 12:58:17]:

the wise muslims already know that america and its evil partners want to attack pakistan directly soon,

even i who is a commoner wrote more than an year back that the excuse for attacking pakistan will be created by americans after some sort of attack on newyork.

now we can see that even though no bomb blasted the american media is blowing trumpet that pakistani islamists did this attack

 

anyway sooner or later something bigger will be arranged and islamists in pakistan will be blamed and than pakistan will be attacked like iraq and afghanistan,than a  struggle and jihad against  americans and their pakistani agents will begin here i guess

but remember.pakistan is much bigger country than iraq and afghanistan,so bloodshed can be horrible

secondly pakistani nation has some very brave islamists groups like taliban so battle in pakistan will be may be a decisive war or crusade

also pakistan has big pile of weapons and if it somehow comes in hands of islamists than inshalah no one can defeat them

a pious man predicted a year back that both america and india will attack pakistan at one time one from east border and one from west

may be this war will also be punishment or azaab from allah for pakistans majority who has forgotten islam

 

but one positive thing is that atleast 20 percent area of pakistan is under islamists or taliban control,so in these areas inshalah america india will never win

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Why is no one expecting israel to become the next world power? The majority of the people and analysts expect china to become the next world power. On the other hand , sheikh INH's thesis argues that israel is going to become the next ruling state of the world. I completely agree with maulana's predictions and analysis. However. logically speaking it seems that china is capable of replacing the u.s.a . China's economy clearly surpasses to that of israel, china has a greater population than israel, china has better relations with the world than israel and many other facts and figures that are clearly better than israel.  Please share your views .
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the wise muslims already know that america and its evil partners want to attack pakistan directly soon,

even i who is a commoner wrote more than an year back that the excuse for attacking pakistan will be created by americans after some sort of attack on newyork.

now we can see that even though no bomb blasted the american media is blowing trumpet that pakistani islamists did this attack

 

anyway sooner or later something bigger will be arranged and islamists in pakistan will be blamed and than pakistan will be attacked like iraq and afghanistan,than a  struggle and jihad against  americans and their pakistani agents will begin here i guess

but remember.pakistan is much bigger country than iraq and afghanistan,so bloodshed can be horrible

secondly pakistani nation has some very brave islamists groups like taliban so battle in pakistan will be may be a decisive war or crusade

also pakistan has big pile of weapons and if it somehow comes in hands of islamists than inshalah no one can defeat them

a pious man predicted a year back that both america and india will attack pakistan at one time one from east border and one from west

may be this war will also be punishment or azaab from allah for pakistans majority who has forgotten islam

 

but one positive thing is that atleast 20 percent area of pakistan is under islamists or taliban control,so in these areas inshalah america india will never win

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As-salamu 'alaikum,

"...b) Create a connection between pakistani taliban and the SUV incident..."

The TTP (Tahreek-e-Taliban Pakistan) has already claimed the responsibility of Times Square blast. Please see the video...

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/clips/other/May10/Hakeemullah%20Mehsud%20is%20Alive%20and%20sends%20a%20message%20to%20the%20American%20Terrorist%20government%20to%20stop%20terrorizing%20the%20peace%20loving%20people%20of%20the%20world%20USA.htm

Brothers can someone clarify, who is hosting and maintaining www.theunjustmedia.com

Wa-allahu 'alam

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Salaam Alaikum

The Car bomb incident in an SUV in New York's Times Square will increase the chances of a Major American Military action on Pakistani Soil as a pakistani american has been framed for this incident.

I think this SUV incident has been planned and executed to finish of Pakistan as a Nuclear State and then leaving them at the Mercy of India.

Also do not forget that prior to this incident Washington has warned New Delhi that a terror attack is being planned on New Delhi.

Also reports are coming out in Indian Media that 140 Al-Qaeda Operatives have sneaked into India.

I have a gut feeling that we may witness another terror attack on India soon.

The Government of India has kept quite despite mounting pressure from the indian public for military action on Pakistan after the 2008 attacks.

I feel they cannot keep quite in the face of another attack .

I feel this is the sequence they have planned :

a) Cause the SUV incident and frame a pakistani american.

b) Create a connection between pakistani taliban and the SUV incident.

c) Cause a case to invade pakistan to deal with taliban as present pak government is not doing much.

d) Invade pakistan and destroy pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

e) Cause an Indian invasion from the east (similar to the one done in East Pakistan ).

f) Giving the control of a Nuclear free Pakistan and giving it the freedom to deal with it the way it would like.

AND LETS NOT ALSO FORGET :

Finishing of Pakistan's Nuclear Programme and existing Arsenal will also give Israel the Green Light to launch its Planned War in the Middle  East in 2012.

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Dear Brother Admin,

Assalamualaikum,

As you wrote," As I have said in other places, if you are in a situation of direct assault, according to Islam your choice is clear. It's not clear to me.

Ain't we under attack as a Ummah? What's been happening to Islamic states in the last 60-70 years  qualify for the term ' Direct attack"?!!!

Our beloved prophet(PBUH) taught us to take all the Ummah as a body, and if one part hurts, the rest must feel the pain.



[admin 2010-05-03 16:44:51]:

Dear brothers,

In quoteing the example of the Iranian Revolutions I was but refering to the method employed, to show how effective it could be.  I'm not sucking this from my thumb, but rather you should see Dr Israr Ahmeds treatise on the subject and as you know INH has provided similar advice to those in Pakistan. Their advice is obviously grounded in the Quran and more so the Sunnah.

As I have said in other places, if you are in a situation of direct assault, according to Islam your choice is clear. However it is the quality of a muslim to employ strategy and wisdom in his actions. The point I have been stressing, asside from the mechanics of the examples, is that much more can be achieved employing the advice from the wise ulema we take our knowledge from. We are simply here to show an alternate way.

We are living in an age of ashabul Kahf, an age of strategic retreat emphasised by the fact that Gog and Magog have been released and released, (Retreat does not mean surrender.) if you accept the basic thesis which has been presented by INH.

If you dont, then well I guess you have your own thought and may you be blessed in following it.

PS: Have a listen to Islam and the Political Order for a treatise on some of these topics.

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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?


Dear brother kashif jamal

Assalamu'alaikum,

I feel really ashamed about Bangladesh. It's been taken as a pawn by the corrupted politicians since it got independence. Now the AL government tries hard to instill a secular pagan state mostly influenced by 'India'. Alhamdulillah, it's a country of 150 million Muslims and some activities against this satanic plot already surfaced in the past and some of our brothers happily embraced martyrdom.

Some religious parties do operate here. But they are rather like ' Wolf in a sheep- skin'. All corrupted morally and they just remain in the scene for 'Money' and 'Power' and mass propaganda to lull this huge population to sleep. Poverty stricken and violence and wholesale corruption have really afflicted this nation. IMF and World bank have already sabotaged this country's morality by putting pressure on it to leave it's value and identity as an Islamic country with an exchange of 'Western Dreams". Needless to say the US and EU's efforts to neutralize it and make it an impotent Muslim state as they fear it can erupt one day against all the wrongs. 

 

I am hopeful, If ALLAH(SWT) wills, this population will rise from the slumber and fight for the cause of Islam.

 



[kashif jamal 2010-05-03 23:03:51]:


addiyat i have question for u

 

haseena wajids govt in bangladesh is worse anti islam govt in muslim world,they are doing everything against islamic ideology

what common bangladeshis feel about it and why no religious party there struggles practically against this evil of zionist hindu agent the haseena wajid


 


 


[addiyat 2010-04-28 16:34:59]:

Brothers Assalamu alikum<

'How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan'?

 

Well, Is it a mere question for the sake of questioning? Or a sincere appeal that really sets it's firm foothold? - This thing needs to be crystallized first.

We can see flurry of wisdom and knowledge here and there and also see people going back to 'comfort zone' satisfying the constant knock on their veil on soul.

Jihad has been obligatory long...long... ago and some real Muslims already have delivered the call around the world and are in it. This Jihad is not only in mind but the militant one. Don't know why the scholars still hesitate even after unveiling the conspirators mindset to us!!!!!!!!

It's wiser to look around.

We are certainly not told to follow that cowardice and feet licking, shameful doctrine of Mahatma Gandhi. That approach only makes the Muslims impotent, who take vow to be righteous of all on earth. Many Muslim states have become so. 

Knowledge and signs are for those who act - in Islam in every second/minute/hour/year

President Obama can be proud of having Islamic link, but for him that is meant to be burning in hell with his Master, Iblish/Satan.

It's really sad to see when good endeavor goes nowhere but confined in brain cells!!!!

Revolution starts by not asking publicly but with diplomacy and joining up the forces, who are already in it. One has to just look around relying on ALLAH(SWT) with a pristine 'Niyat'
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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?



Alslam Alykom

Talk to the Army, look for true believers , true  believers officers, not high ranked officers but start from Majors and bellow this rank, there must be true believers officers among them, talk to all the branches officers, from Armour officers and infantry to communication officers. last and not least. go back to the true creator. Allah S.W. . and have him S.W. in your hearts. when you do. you will fear no one.

la ellah Ella Allah Muhammad Rasool Allah.

wa Alslam Alykom



[umerislam 2010-04-27 11:38:51]:

As salam u alaikum brothers and sisters in islam

My simple question is "How to bring revolution in pakistan"?

There are many Tanzeems/organizations are working for this like Tanzeem e islami,sunni tahreek,hizbut tahrir and so on.I want to know indiviual muslim opnions on this serious matter.What should be the first step and what should be the last step?

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Salaam Alaikum

After Reading Maulana Imran Hosein's assessment as how the island from where Dajjal started his mission was England and the various proofs that he gave to support his theory i came across a poem written by the English Poet William Blake which further Supports his claim.

William Blake was suspected to haven been a free mason.

His Poetry goes as follows . Notice the lines which are in Italics.

And did those feet in ancient time
walk upon england's mountains green?

And was the holy lamb of God
on England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the countenance divine shine
forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here among
these dark Satanic Mills ?


Bring me my bow of burning gold :
Bring me my arrows of desire :
Bring me my spear: O Clouds Unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire :

I Will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand

Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's Green and Pleasant Land.

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 Subject :A late warning (The Dajjal rose up).. 2010-05-04 03:11:41 
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Alslam Alykom

I have searched for 25 years and I have reached what you will about to read and see. The Dajjal Have rose up. I will post the videos then I will explain them in details every day. what I am seeking is the return to worship the one and the only one Allah S.W and the salvation of the Muslim Umah, nothing more nothing less. So  please watch the five video parts before questioning and follow the details I will post every day. if you have any question or a debate please feel free to contact me on the forum or by e-mail. wa Allah S.W a'lam 

Part 1 here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZaHxGbfgU

the details:

 Bism Allah Wa Alslat wa Alslam Ala Afdal Al morsaleen Mohamad ibn Abd Allah S.A.S

It is important for the Muslims to identify this Major Human threat (the Dajjal Fitnah), for their own salvation, unfortunately Muslims around the world still reading with their eyes. Reading with the heart means a reading with a deeper look. Which means? To read behind the lines.

Before we start, Let us agree that, Worshiping is an act and a behaviour reflects what a person believes. So in a modern way of saying, we can say a SYSTEM of life.

Example you are a Muslim so your behaviour reflects what you believe ( you don’t drink Khamr “Wine”, you are a Christians (not all of course) your behaviour reflects what you believe (you do drink Wine ).

So Islam System of life, means follow sharia and what prophet Mohamad S.A.S instructed the Muslims how to behave. So our behaviours have to reflect all of that. In the end we call it to worship. Worshipping Allah S.W. obeying Allah S.W. planed system for our earthly life from the moment we wake up to the Moment we to go to sleep. This planed life system was sent to his greatest instructor in history Mohamad S.A.S.

Now let us remember we do not need to see Allah S.W. to worship him or to obey him or to follow his system. This is very important to remember.

 


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 Subject :The Case of Pakistan Taliban (Israeli Mossad and Indian RAW).. 2010-05-03 23:48:21 
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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?

Salaams,

I think the truth of the Pakistani Taliban is now very apparent. in light of what Sheikh Imran Hosein has said in regards to Pakistan and it being the final obstacle to Israel, i guarantee you wont be suprised by the following expose (read in full).

http://www.infowars.com/israeli-intel-group-shows-its-hand-in-times-square-bomb-hoax/

Peace



[addiyat 2010-04-29 04:49:14]:

Brother umerislam, You have answered your question. As you explicitly mentioned about...."

So in my view and opinion we know that "Afhgan Talibans" are on truth so we should be with them and leave this confusing Tahreek e taliban Pakistan untill the truth stands clear."

 May ALLAH (SWT) accepts what's in your mind, a noble one.

Jazakallah







[umerislam 2010-04-28 21:07:57]:



Brother I don't know what Shaikh Imran's view on Tehrik e taliban Pakistan.

1.It's a very confusing issue because pakistan media doesn't show all truth

2.some analysts say that they are agents of enemies and the prove they give is "Few "Terrorists" were caught by the Pak army and they were not circumcised and one of them was Imam of the masjid for few years.lol
3.some analysts say that it is the reaction of what Pak army is doing and did  in suad,waziristan and in Lal Masjid/madarasa and other masjids/madarasas also which don't get the coverage of the media and I my self know many masjids and madarasas which have been sealed/threatened by the Pak Govt.In a speech of Dr.Israr Ahmed he told that one pak commander who's daughter was killed in Lal masjid, blast himself in the commando training camp.

4.Ameer ul momineen Mulla Umer clearly said that (Afghan Taliban)  are not fighting against Pak Army or in Pak territory. 

5.Funny story:When there was a blast in Shias rally,rehman malik and rangers officer said that it was a suicide attack and one security guard tried to stop the suicide bomber and the bomber blast himself.This statement was shown in almost all news channels and few hours later rehman malik shown the video in which one "Muslim Terrorist Organization" accept the responsibility of the "suicide attack" but the investigation team after 1 or 2 days tod that it wasn't a suicide attack infact it was a remote attack. the bomb was planted in the box lying with the signal.The question arises then who was that Terrorist organization???

So in my view and opinion we know that "Afhgan Talibans" are on truth so we should be with them and leave this confusing Tahreek e taliban Pakistan untill the truth stands clear.

 


 


[Rameez 2010-04-28 13:34:51]:

Assalam u Alaikum,

Jazak Allah everyone for their comments... Brothers can anyone tell me what are Sheikh Imran Hosein's view on Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan.... Does he and you all consider them  as good people or bad people.. 

I am really unable to decide this because In Pakistan, our leaders and media always tries to prove them terrorists and we are only get information about them from these two sources only which I think can be false. We don't get the picture from the other side i.e of Taliban in Pakistan..

Is the Pakistani Military doing the right thing in the North West Province of Pakistan or they are commiting a sin by killing them?

. Because the country at present ruled by corupt rulers that are friends of enemies , I think Taliban MAYBE innocent.. But I can't decide anything right now because we are being shown only one side of picture...

Can please share your and Sheikh Imran Hosein's view on it ( if he has given his views on it)..

May ALLAH bring Pakistan on the right path regardless of the sacrifices Pakistanis may have to give for it ..Ameen....

 

 

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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?


addiyat i have question for u

 

haseena wajids govt in bangladesh is worse anti islam govt in muslim world,they are doing everything against islamic ideology

what common bangladeshis feel about it and why no religious party there struggles practically against this evil of zionist hindu agent the haseena wajid




[addiyat 2010-04-28 16:34:59]:

Brothers Assalamu alikum<

'How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan'?

 

Well, Is it a mere question for the sake of questioning? Or a sincere appeal that really sets it's firm foothold? - This thing needs to be crystallized first.

We can see flurry of wisdom and knowledge here and there and also see people going back to 'comfort zone' satisfying the constant knock on their veil on soul.

Jihad has been obligatory long...long... ago and some real Muslims already have delivered the call around the world and are in it. This Jihad is not only in mind but the militant one. Don't know why the scholars still hesitate even after unveiling the conspirators mindset to us!!!!!!!!

It's wiser to look around.

We are certainly not told to follow that cowardice and feet licking, shameful doctrine of Mahatma Gandhi. That approach only makes the Muslims impotent, who take vow to be righteous of all on earth. Many Muslim states have become so. 

Knowledge and signs are for those who act - in Islam in every second/minute/hour/year

President Obama can be proud of having Islamic link, but for him that is meant to be burning in hell with his Master, Iblish/Satan.

It's really sad to see when good endeavor goes nowhere but confined in brain cells!!!!

Revolution starts by not asking publicly but with diplomacy and joining up the forces, who are already in it. One has to just look around relying on ALLAH(SWT) with a pristine 'Niyat'
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Topic : How to bring revolution in zoinist republic of pakistan?

Dear brothers,

In quoteing the example of the Iranian Revolutions I was but refering to the method employed, to show how effective it could be.  I'm not sucking this from my thumb, but rather you should see Dr Israr Ahmeds treatise on the subject and as you know INH has provided similar advice to those in Pakistan. Their advice is obviously grounded in the Quran and more so the Sunnah.

As I have said in other places, if you are in a situation of direct assault, according to Islam your choice is clear. However it is the quality of a muslim to employ strategy and wisdom in his actions. The point I have been stressing, asside from the mechanics of the examples, is that much more can be achieved employing the advice from the wise ulema we take our knowledge from. We are simply here to show an alternate way.

We are living in an age of ashabul Kahf, an age of strategic retreat emphasised by the fact that Gog and Magog have been released and released, (Retreat does not mean surrender.) if you accept the basic thesis which has been presented by INH.

If you dont, then well I guess you have your own thought and may you be blessed in following it.

PS: Have a listen to Islam and the Political Order for a treatise on some of these topics.

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Assalumu'alaikum Brother Admin,

First of all i have no grudge on your opinion. But you failed to explain. As you have come across the understanding of your respectable teacher, I would urge you to spit it out in this Public forum. Because there is no Mysticism in Islam as our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had explained all the matter mundane and heavenly to us. If he could teach us the straight path, we as his followers can't hold any secret if it is meant to be benefiting to the entire Ummah. At least, alhamdulillah we have knowledge, that's why we are in this forum.

Regarding the 'Iranian Revolution' -------- there is no compromising elements in Islam. If some one's intention/belief is rotten, we, Muslims shouldn't take any strategy from them no matter how successful it seems to be. We can't mix two different extremes and patronize in between. As you mentioned......the only ones who had employed the strategy of the Messenger (s.a.w) in the modern age....Then why shouldn't we better turn to our Prophet's(PBUH) strategy??No need to mention the corrupted 'Iranians". The revolution was a con job and appropriating the same Zionist agenda. It's a world of deception and lies, forged by the cursed Iblis.

I have no emotion of my own regarding Islam. It counts a little before my lord ALLAH(SWT). What was laid open to us by HIM through the messengers, still intact and devoid of any opinions of ours.

What will help is my firm belief and I know like many of our brothers, who are much better than me in deeds and action, It's the time for activism, time for Jihad - the militant one, time to do wrong who wronged Islam, this entire world and the human race.

Forgive me as a brother if I have hurt your feelings, but do pray for me for my understandings if i fall short of it. All i'm saying or writing here only to seek the mercy of ALLAH(SWT). No one can benefit me if HE wills not.

Allah Hafiz 

 



[admin 2010-05-03 08:00:55]:

It is not fear that you detect my dear brother, but rather a deep understanding of the thought of my teacher an understanding that goes beyond what can be expressed on this public forum.

So as he has suggested, in the article on Pakistan, a package of non violent, civil action would not only deliver control of Pakistan back to the Muslims, but would do so in a manner that would not give the enemies of Islam a reason to reign wholesale slaughter upon the people of Pakistan.

No matter what you may think of the Iranians, they are, thusfar, the only ones who had employed the strategy of the Messenger (s.a.w) in the modern age to successfully gain political control of territory, without violence.  A similar "silent" revolution is at present happening in Turkey, so putting your emotions asside you would notice the results that it is yielding.

@khurassani :

See: http://www.tanzeem.org/resources/articles/articles.asp

There is a section on Islamic Revolution, select the articles by Israr Ahmed (r)

 

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Here I dont agree with my brother admin regarding quoting Iran revolution as an example. We need to understand why this revolution was brought up and who was behind the curtain. With reference to my earlier post "Truth about Iran Revolution", please see the following website again about Iran revolution. I dont know how much truth is in this article but I couldn't digest Iran revolution from the date when I started studying about revolution in Islamic world.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=196935

 

 

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